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Old 19-05-2017, 12:48   #856
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let's just cry everyday because we sold Kroos
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It's time to get the fuck over it. Hindsight is 20/20 as has been pointed out. These things happen in football, look forward and try to improve. Should have kept him with foresight, we didn't.

Also most people don't even stop to consider that Real isn't Bayern and Kroos may not have played for us as well as them the last few years for all sorts of reasons. He improved a lot there.

Very talented MF, don't care for him much outside talent. Hope he can help the NT stay competitive. Otherwise, he won't be back to Bayern so let's move the fuck on.
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1) We have never missed him.

2) He was NOT WC before he left.

3) Thiago is better. Unfortunately, Kroos has a better supporting cast and a sane coach...

4) His disgusting spoiled brat face has only grown more and more disgusting in Madrid.

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1) We have never missed him.

2) He was NOT WC before he left.

3) Thiago is better. Unfortunately, Kroos has a better supporting cast and a sane coach...

4) His disgusting spoiled brat face has only grown more and more disgusting in Madrid.

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1) I miss him, and our midfield desperately misses him.

2) That's up for debate, and the fact is that he is world class now.

3) Kroos is better, all the titles he has won in Madrid speak for his success and performance.

4) Seriously? I bet you have a spoiled brat face too.
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Old 19-05-2017, 22:17   #859
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Dude, how is this even a fucking thing STILL.

Maybe some of you said back then that Gotze would've flopped or something. But the kid had real talent and had huge potential.

Kroos wanted to say fuck all to the wage structure because his feelings got hurt, he's an egocentrical little bitch with zero regards or care for Bayern.

Now, Kroos back then wasn't our top midfielder or anything and IMO the right call was made by prioritizing Gotze over him and not giving in to his bullshit. Unfortunately Gotze has a medical condition that made his football deteriorate. Otherwise he really did have the talent to be truly great. Dunno if he would, but the talent was there. Now who the fuck could've called that he had that condition back then? Yeah, that's right, nobody.

Would Bayern be better off not selling Kroos and never signing Gotze to begin with? Yes. Regardless of Kroos being or not this Pirlo-esque god some think he is, yes we'd be better off with him. But nobody could have called that things would happen as it did.

So if any of you have a time machine please go back and undo this mistake with the knowledge that we all have today, otherwise just goddamn let go with this pointless complaints about selling Kroos.
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Old 19-05-2017, 22:24   #861
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1) I miss him, and our midfield desperately misses him.

2) That's up for debate, and the fact is that he is world class now.

3) Kroos is better, all the titles he has won in Madrid speak for his success and performance.

4) Seriously? I bet you have a spoiled brat face too.
This is the most retarded argument for evaluating the skill of a single player vs another player. So Kroos is a better player than Ronaldo for instance? Cause Kroos has shiny UCL trophies but Ronaldo doesn't. Ronaldo is still one of the top human beings in this little sport, while Kroos is just another good player among many.

Also Madrid has plenty of extra help for winning their dirty ass titles. I'd say titles in Madrid have a lot less weight than in any other club simply because their titles aren't won by merit but by corruption a lot of the time. Shadiest damn club in the planet.
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Götze broke the wage structure by earning 7 million euros as a new signing. Kroos wanted the same(before the signing of Mario), Uli and KHR didn't thought he deserved it, but thought Götze did.

But... oh boy... were they mistaken.

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This is the most retarded argument for evaluating the skill of a single player vs another player. So Kroos is a better player than Ronaldo for instance? Cause Kroos has shiny UCL trophies but Ronaldo doesn't. Ronaldo is still one of the top human beings in this little sport, while Kroos is just another good player among many.

Also Madrid has plenty of extra help for winning their dirty ass titles. I'd say titles in Madrid have a lot less weight than in any other club simply because their titles aren't won by merit but by corruption a lot of the time. Shadiest damn club in the planet.
Are you really going to compare A STRIKER TO A FUCKING MIDFIELDER?
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Götze broke the wage structure by earning 7 million euros as a new signing. Kroos wanted the same(before the signing of Mario), Uli and KHR didn't thought he deserved it, but thought Götze did.

But... oh boy... were they mistaken.



Are you really going to compare A STRIKER TO A FUCKING MIDFIELDER?
I'm comparing them inside their respective positions.

Kroos is just a pretty great player. Ronaldo is one of the best strikers in history.

But since titles prove skill, Kroos > Ronaldo right?

And Gotze was a risk. What people here most ask today is for Bayern to splash the cash on talent. But back when Bayern did so, they fucked up? As I said, nobody could've known that Gotze had a condition and at the time he was the biggest talent in Germany, so what Bayern did wasn't quite breaking the wage structure, but taking a risk, which great teams have to do now and again to stay on top, you just don't get to be a top club by playing it safe always.

Also this "oh boy, they were mistaken" just reeks of arrogance. You in your hindsighted enlightenment may think it so simple and think they were so dumb and wrong back then. But they were actually doing it right. It just didn't work out.
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Sorry Rohr, but I'm just going to say one thing about the retarded tittle argument;

Carvajal: 2 UCL tittles (so far)
Philipp Lahm: 1 UCL tittle (whole career).

Is that enough of a counter argument? Kroos has more tittles than Thiago because he was at the right place at the right time. Because a) Madrid had it easier than Bayern b) Bayern had a fucking Philosopher and a Grandpa Caretaker as coaches during Thiago's tenure c) Bayern has utterly FAILED so far in reinforcing attack. While Madrid gathered the BBC and Barça the MSN, Bayern has been sticking to past-their-best Robbery backed up (which means these are the ones who are actually available and fit when it matters) by Götze, Costa and Coman.

Good God, it's not so complicated.

Right place at the right time is basically the sum of all of Kroos' career merits...

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Hehe. Was nice to see it all blow up from outside.

No, not serious :P

Point was; Like selling Thiago was a mistake, selling Kroos was also a mistake or at the very least not the best decision, especially since Pep also wanted to keep him.

He would have been great for Bayern in a midfield with Thiago and Vidal or Javi Martinez.

The fact that Thiago is doing well for you is great, but the more, the merrier. Wouldn't anyone else say so?

Gotze was touted as a generational talent, but I think Kroos was performing at a high level too. I obviously never watched him week in and out like you guys, but he looked impressive when he played and definitely had a World Class potential in him, if he wasn't already World Class in the summer of 2014 when you sold him, but I see many of you argue against that notion.

Even Thiago in 2013 wasn't good enough to unsettle Xavi and Iniesta from the Starting XI, but that doesn't mean I don't think it was a wrong decision to let him go, or prioritize freaking Cesc over him.

Kroos is not a one in a generation midfielder. I actually preferred a fit Gundogan over him too, but he was a World Class talent, or a World Class player in a midfield position that is very hard to find, with those characteristics. Would have been to Bayern's benefit if your board and him found a middle ground.

And while I believe Modric is the best Real Madrid midfielder, and the one that drives their midfield, Kroos is a damn great player too. Some of you like PCapitalist give him less credit than he deserves. Many of his assists are from set-pieces, that's true, but he still plays very well overall.


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I bet DonAk has that outfit so he can be like Messi


Messi's dressing sense is wack and Cristiano is just vain.

That's so old school though. Better than the skinny ass jeans these days for sure.

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I will never understand the fetish to still debate Kroos. The guys is talented, we cannot take that away from him, however, some of us will have a higher opinion on him and some of us won't. Just get on with it.

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I will never understand the fetish to still debate Kroos. The guys is talented, we cannot take that away from him, however, some of us will have a higher opinion on him and some of us won't. Just get on with it.

It was still a mistake by our board. Selling price was too low for a guy of his skill.
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I will never understand the fetish to still debate Kroos. The guys is talented, we cannot take that away from him, however, some of us will have a higher opinion on him and some of us won't. Just get on with it.

This just in mod on a fan forum insinuates fans should stop discussion on a topic.


News flash wavy (that's right lowercase mafugga), we stop discussions like this and you'd be out of the job of being ass hole in charge.

Face it our frivolous discussions give you your power. Without our squabbling you'd be useless.
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This just in mod on a fan forum insinuates fans should stop discussion on a topic.


News flash wavy (that's right lowercase mafugga), we stop discussions like this and you'd be out of the job of being ass hole in charge.

Face it our frivolous discussions give you your power. Without our squabbling you'd be useless.
Don't you think it is futile to discuss the same topic for, what now? 4 years? The same things are being repeated over and over again by the same people with the same result. If someone is bringing new information to the discussion, and someone else's mind is being changed, then by all means, go ahead and discuss, but we have become a collective broken record.

Also, I want you guys to use you're intellect on discussing things which can enlighten us.

In other words.

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So congrats for Real Madrid and Kross (Which obviously many members here hate him for leaving us)for winning the league title. Soon enough will post a picture of him holding the trophy to make you guys more jealous.

Enough with crap above, I just want to say something that if Kross were still with us, things would have been different for us and you can't say no to that because its the truth. Kross has something in the way he plays which makes him different from others.
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