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  • Originally posted by Die Roten Mun View Post
    In term of the single pivot, Carlo is like Pep, Javi won't play there.
    Yes, but try to keep his Real team out of your mind and think about Chelsea & Milan. He liked deep-lying playmakers - just like Pep - but surrounded them with strong, "destroying" type of midfielders - unlike Pep, whose favorite midfield was Lahm - Thiago - Kroos. So in this case, it would be Thiago protected by Javi or Vidal. Switching to Thiago protected by both would basically mean we switch to a 3 men backline with no fullbacks and Alaba at CB.

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    • Lahm as RB , Javi as CDM and Muller as SS would be more than enough for me

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      • Originally posted by mea95 View Post
        Lahm as RB , Javi as CDM and Muller as SS would be more than enough for me
        Basically a 4-2-3-1, eh? I woudn't mind that...

        But after this season even I don't believe it Lahm has what it takes to be a WC RB, hope he proves me wrong until next season...

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        • I couldn't he;p but laugh at Benatia's

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          • same could be said for Ribery, if he's not made of glass then no one is

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            • I wonder how we'll play with Ancelotti's arrival.

              4-3-3?

              What would the team look like?

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              • I'm posting this which I posted elsewhere because I think it summarizes what I think about possible formations. I don't necessarily think we will get Alexis, but do think we need someone readymade. There's also the possibility that Carlo turns Thiago into a regista and we get someone aggressive to partner Vidal in front of him or move Müller there.

                The ideal player for a Christmas tree would be Alexis, not James. Something like

                Lewy
                Alexis-Müller
                Thiago-Javi-Vidal
                Alaba-Hummela-Boateng-Lahm
                Neuer

                Only problem would be that Coman wouldn't get many chances to develop and I'm not sure Lahm still has the pace to keep the field wide. OTOH, Alexis is versatile player who is comfortable as a winger, so we could also field him in a 4231 or 433 like:

                Lewy
                Alexis-Müller-Costa
                Javi(Thiago)-Vidal
                Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Lahm
                Neuer

                Or a 433 with Alexis and Müller as wide forwards and Thiago-Javi-Vidal MF.

                Another possibility would be a 4312 like

                Lewy-Müller
                Götze (or James)
                Thiago-Javi-Vidal
                Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Lahm
                Neuer

                But, as I said, James is not very versatile so I don't really want him. He doesn't defend and is not a winger. He would force us to play him in a pure 10 role.

                Anyway... My point is Alexis fits pretty much any formation we might fancy playing so he would be the better choice.

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                • You know, I am inclined to believe that, despite my earlier protestations, Javi can in fact play the lone-6 role IF(F) Boateng and Hummels play behind him. With that type of back-seat playmaking, we can actually afford to have a defensive screen. And considering that Javi's best season (2012-13) was played mostly as a screen for Schweinsteiger, I think he could actually do well in midfield again.

                  I'm excited to see what happens.

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                  • Now we will have Vidal, Alonso, Thiago, Sanches, Kimmich, Martinez, Rode and Hojbjerg for 2 positions (CDM/CM)?

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                    • I have a hard time seeing us keep Hojbjerg.

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                      • Originally posted by PCapitalist View Post
                        I'm posting this which I posted elsewhere because I think it summarizes what I think about possible formations. I don't necessarily think we will get Alexis, but do think we need someone readymade. There's also the possibility that Carlo turns Thiago into a regista and we get someone aggressive to partner Vidal in front of him or move Müller there.

                        The ideal player for a Christmas tree would be Alexis, not James. Something like

                        Lewy
                        Alexis-Müller
                        Thiago-Javi-Vidal
                        Alaba-Hummela-Boateng-Lahm
                        Neuer

                        Only problem would be that Coman wouldn't get many chances to develop and I'm not sure Lahm still has the pace to keep the field wide. OTOH, Alexis is versatile player who is comfortable as a winger, so we could also field him in a 4231 or 433 like:

                        Lewy
                        Alexis-Müller-Costa
                        Javi(Thiago)-Vidal
                        Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Lahm
                        Neuer

                        Or a 433 with Alexis and Müller as wide forwards and Thiago-Javi-Vidal MF.

                        Another possibility would be a 4312 like

                        Lewy-Müller
                        Götze (or James)
                        Thiago-Javi-Vidal
                        Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Lahm
                        Neuer

                        But, as I said, James is not very versatile so I don't really want him. He doesn't defend and is not a winger. He would force us to play him in a pure 10 role.

                        Anyway... My point is Alexis fits pretty much any formation we might fancy playing so he would be the better choice.

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                        Υour thoughts are fine but my beliefe is that the cornerstone of this team is our wingers' quality.
                        This is where Carlo is going to count most at building our new Bayern.
                        You cannot find so many world class wingers like Robbery (they have at least one very good year left) Comman, Costa and why not Muller.
                        So, my beliefe is that 4-2-3-1 is the most possible formation!

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                        • Talking about our midfielders ... We will have:
                          Thiago , Alonso , Vidal , Kimmich , Sanches , Martinez , Rode , Gaudino , Hojbjerg

                          IMO , Rode & Hojbjerg will probably leave and Gaudino will go back on loan for another season
                          And I'm not sure if Thiago will remain here or will follow Pep but I hope he will stay

                          So we will have 5 or 6 midfielders for next season. And if Ancelotti will play with 3 midfielders on the pitch , 5/6 midfielders isn't a high number at all

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                          • Originally posted by mea95 View Post
                            Talking about our midfielders ... We will have:
                            Thiago , Alonso , Vidal , Kimmich , Sanches , Martinez , Rode , Gaudino , Hojbjerg

                            IMO , Rode & Hojbjerg will probably leave and Gaudino will go back on loan for another season
                            And I'm not sure if Thiago will remain here or will follow Pep but I hope he will stay

                            So we will have 5 or 6 midfielders for next season. And if Ancelotti will play with 3 midfielders on the pitch , 5/6 midfielders isn't a high number at all
                            Gaudino is on loan till Jun 30 2017. I think we are just fine now, because I do not expect Rode to stay and Xabi has 1 year contract.

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                            • Originally posted by mea95 View Post
                              Talking about our midfielders ... We will have:
                              Thiago , Alonso , Vidal , Kimmich , Sanches , Martinez , Rode , Gaudino , Hojbjerg

                              IMO , Rode & Hojbjerg will probably leave and Gaudino will go back on loan for another season
                              And I'm not sure if Thiago will remain here or will follow Pep but I hope he will stay

                              So we will have 5 or 6 midfielders for next season. And if Ancelotti will play with 3 midfielders on the pitch , 5/6 midfielders isn't a high number at all

                              Playing with 3 midfielders we will have Robben, Ribery, Costa, Coman, Götze (if he stays), Müller and Lewandowski fighting for 3 positions (4-3-3)...

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                              • Its not even end of season and we already spend 70M on CD and CM. But we need RB, LW/ST. So we can expect more shopping from Bayern.
                                This is going to be interesting transfer window for Bayern.
                                So for now my prediction of formations with Carlo is:

                                4-4-2
                                Neuer
                                Lahm,Boateng,Hummels,Alaba
                                Comman,Vidal,Sanches,Costa
                                Muller, Lewa

                                4-2-3-1
                                Neuer
                                Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Alaba
                                Martinez, Vidal
                                Comman, Muller, Costa
                                Lewa

                                4-3-3
                                Neuer
                                Lahm,Boateng,Hummels,Alaba
                                Vidal,Martinez,Sanches
                                Muller,Lewa,Costa

                                3-3-3-1
                                Boateng,Martinez,Hummels
                                Vidal,Sanches,Alaba
                                Comman,Muller,Costa
                                Lewa

                                I believe that Carlo will use Robben and Ribery as strong and experienced backup.
                                We need to buy Alexis Sanchez and make Comman his backup.
                                We need someone to be backup for Lahm.
                                Important bench: Ulreich, Bernat, Batstuber, Kimmich, Alonso, Tiago, Robben, Ribery

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