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  • micky
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    Originally posted by mea95 View Post
    As predicted
    As predicted a possible line-up? So a prediction of a prediction.

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  • FernandoBR
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    Originally posted by mea95 View Post
    As predicted
    Tolisso for Vidal... Thiago for Tolisso... Müller for Thiago... Vidal with his ass nailed to the bench were he deserves to be.

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  • Nils
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    Originally posted by PCapitalist View Post
    Well we broke our transfer records for Tolisso, and Vidal was somehow underwhelming last season. They can fight it out for that spot. A priori, I'd agree Vidal should start, but let's see how Tolisso plays in the early season.

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    I hope tolisso reaches a level that allows us to bench Vidal, my feelings on the Chilean are quite mixed.

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  • PCapitalist
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    Originally posted by Bassnos View Post
    Yes I like your line up.
    To manny people is putting Tolisso in first 11. But for me midfield of Vidal, Thiago and Javi is our strongest midfield.
    Well we broke our transfer records for Tolisso, and Vidal was somehow underwhelming last season. They can fight it out for that spot. A priori, I'd agree Vidal should start, but let's see how Tolisso plays in the early season.

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  • Bassnos
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    Originally posted by PCapitalist View Post
    Yes! Javi!!! But:

    Lewy-Müller
    James
    Thiago-Javi-Vidal (Tolisso)
    Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Kimmich
    Neuer

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    Yes I like your line up.
    To manny people is putting Tolisso in first 11. But for me midfield of Vidal, Thiago and Javi is our strongest midfield.

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  • DanaSchofield
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    Why on earth is Thiago not the 6?

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  • Nils
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    Originally posted by mea95 View Post
    As predicted
    it looks great

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  • mea95
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    As predicted

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  • Tommy5Rings
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    Ribery and Coman can rotate

    Muller can play RM or Second Striker
    Robben can play RM or Second Striker
    or they can both play if James is sitting

    Tolisso and Rudy can rotate the central mids, No more Alonso holding mid will be a huge bonus for the mobility of our midfield.

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  • PCapitalist
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    Originally posted by Bassnos View Post
    Martinez in first 11 as DM is my wish.

    Neuer
    Kimmich Boateng Hummels Alaba
    Thiago Martinez Vidal
    Robben Lewa James
    Yes! Javi!!! But:

    Lewy-Müller
    James
    Thiago-Javi-Vidal (Tolisso)
    Alaba-Hummels-Boateng-Kimmich
    Neuer

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  • Blackroze
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    Originally posted by pzUH View Post
    I'd like to see Ancelotti try his old Milan 4321/4312 here.
    Our stacked midfield & kinda lack of wingers is just about right for that formation. And I'd like to see Kimmich doing some Cafu.

    Neuer
    Kimmich-Boa-Mats-Alaba
    Javi-Thiago-Tolisso
    James-Vidal
    Lewa


    Jokes aside, but if it's true and we are trying something else than what we are used to right now, it might be as important for us as what happened with LvG when he switched to 4-2-3-1 from a very traditional, some would say old fashioned, 4-4-2. If somehow Carlo makes it work and we start to play collectively through the middle and also wings instead of relying on individual brilliance it's superb. Cause those individuals might have an off day, or they get old, or you cannot replace them properly, etc. If a decent tradition of collective football gameplay could be established within the club, then we can be very sure that Bayern will remain the powerhouse in Europe for more years to come.

    This 4-3-3 thing is another approach. Nobody even would know which one is better: sticking to what we have right now and pushing for a record breaking signing for the wing or changing the entire system. Only time will tell. But It'll be interesting to see Bayern play another different kind of philosophy with fast paced transitions, less possession, outside box shoots, through the middle play, etc. I'm all in for this so called christmas tree, let it be a sign for a new Bayern as it always signals new year!
    Last edited by Blackroze; 12-07-2017, 00:51.

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  • pzUH
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    I'd like to see Ancelotti try his old Milan 4321/4312 here.
    Our stacked midfield & kinda lack of wingers is just about right for that formation. And I'd like to see Kimmich doing some Cafu.

    Neuer
    Kimmich-Boa-Mats-Alaba
    Javi-Thiago-Tolisso
    James-Vidal
    Lewa
    Last edited by pzUH; 11-07-2017, 23:55.

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  • roosoo2
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    Originally posted by Grey View Post
    I'll open this back up in good faith, please don't make me regret it

    I believe - like you - that Jupp's tenure coincided with the MOST obvious formation line-ups, in both 2011-12 and 2012-13. Note your exact words that I agreed with:



    I still agree with this 100%. We have never since Jupp had a formation selection so obvious, and I even agree with your proscribed formation (with Muller being the "wiggle room" so to speak).

    What I don't agree with is that Jupp's formation was SO obvious and unchangeable that it was not subject to any uncertainty whatsoever. Jupp DID have planning problems, minor ones sure, but he had them none-the-less. The Robben-Kroos-Muller selection problem was a hypothetical more than a reality, because Kroos and Robben were injured at the right times, and Robben struggled with fitness for a while - so even in that case, what "could have been" a selection question, was more often than not resolved without any question whatsoever.

    What really intrigued me about your point regarding how our squad selection now being as obvious as Jupp's squad selection then is the only stand-out question mark remaining (for me at least, and perhaps for you too, I don't know) is actually identical to the one Jupp faced. Kroos-Muller-Robben for two spots sure looks an awful lot like James-Muller-Robben for the exact same two spots.

    Like Jupp's history has shown, I do not expect it to pose much a problem, but it's a funny little parallel nonetheless and - I'll toot my own horn - I'm correct to note it.
    ok thanks for the clarification, i misunderstood your first post then.

    and my first reply to you wasn't in no shape or form hostile, and your reaction caught me off guard and pissed me off...so again i misunderstood your point.

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  • Grey
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    Originally posted by roosoo2 View Post
    maybe i misunderstood your post, if that is the case then i apologize..

    so let me get this straight, did you claim that it was NOT obvious back in jupp's era on who was gonna start between kroos muller or robben in the line-up? cause that what i got form your comment. and this statement is not in agreement with my first post!! so i'm confused, you say you agree with me but then state something that contradict my first post!!

    so, that's why i replied to you "not true"...and i wasn't trying to be hostile towards you or anything.
    I'll open this back up in good faith, please don't make me regret it

    I believe - like you - that Jupp's tenure coincided with the MOST obvious formation line-ups, in both 2011-12 and 2012-13. Note your exact words that I agreed with:

    i think it's the first time since jupp Heynckes's era our starting-11 is so obvious.
    I still agree with this 100%. We have never since Jupp had a formation selection so obvious, and I even agree with your proscribed formation (with Muller being the "wiggle room" so to speak).

    What I don't agree with is that Jupp's formation was SO obvious and unchangeable that it was not subject to any uncertainty whatsoever. Jupp DID have planning problems, minor ones sure, but he had them none-the-less. The Robben-Kroos-Muller selection problem was a hypothetical more than a reality, because Kroos and Robben were injured at the right times, and Robben struggled with fitness for a while - so even in that case, what "could have been" a selection question, was more often than not resolved without any question whatsoever.

    What really intrigued me about your point regarding how our squad selection now being as obvious as Jupp's squad selection then is the only stand-out question mark remaining (for me at least, and perhaps for you too, I don't know) is actually identical to the one Jupp faced. Kroos-Muller-Robben for two spots sure looks an awful lot like James-Muller-Robben for the exact same two spots.

    Like Jupp's history has shown, I do not expect it to pose much a problem, but it's a funny little parallel nonetheless and - I'll toot my own horn - I'm correct to note it.

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  • roosoo2
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    Originally posted by Grey
    Did you hear something? It must be the wind, because I know someone so overwhelmingly intelligent like Roosoo isn't STILL picking fights with the person who agrees with him.
    maybe i misunderstood your post, if that is the case then i apologize..

    so let me get this straight, did you claim that it was NOT obvious back in jupp's era on who was gonna start between kroos muller or robben in the line-up? cause that what i got form your comment. and this statement is not in agreement with my first post!! so i'm confused, you say you agree with me but then state something that contradict my first post!!

    so, that's why i replied to you "not true"...and i wasn't trying to be hostile towards you or anything.

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