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  • Originally posted by Bassnos View Post
    I don't even want to comment this.
    Maby you should try to watch few Bayern games...

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    • #ribery #lewandowski #robben

      #alaba #alonso #ssteiger #lahm

      #boateng #martinez #benatia

      #neuer

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      • Originally posted by mavros View Post
        #ribery #lewandowski #robben

        #alaba #alonso #ssteiger #lahm

        #boateng #martinez #benatia

        #neuer
        God, our depth is staggering. With this fortmation, Thiago, Muller, Badstuber, Bernat and Gotze would all miss out. All being world-class when in form

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        • Not a fan of Thiago not playing. Also don't think there's enough attacking mentality in that midfield.

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          • Originally posted by BayRan View Post
            Not a fan of Thiago not playing. Also don't think there's enough attacking mentality in that midfield.
            We haven't seen a Xabi-Schweini midfield yet, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Thiago must play, or at least Goetze, although I have doubts about the latter performing in a deep midfield role, even with such a stalwart defense. As far as I see, we don't have anyone on our team that can adequately replace Thiago, and he's not even a key player for us. Weird.

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            • Originally posted by sws View Post
              God, our depth is staggering. With this fortmation, Thiago, Muller, Badstuber, Bernat and Gotze would all miss out. All being world-class when in form


              Müller's world class even when not in form!

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              • Originally posted by BayRan View Post
                Not a fan of Thiago not playing. Also don't think there's enough attacking mentality in that midfield.
                I respect your choise being a fan of Thiago playing, but in this formation (3-4-3) whom would you drop for him?

                This is the strongest formation made to face the strongest teams.

                Combining the existence of all our stars/experienced players, with defencive stability and at the same time giving the chance to both Schweini and Xabi create through the center (exploiting the existence of Javi) and Alaba/Ribery + Lahm/Robben from the wings.

                Also we yet have to see Thiago healthy to consider him as a starter and don't dare to say that this go for Schweini too..... Just because Schweini is Schweini!

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                • Guys, if Guardiola had all his squad fit and 100% healty, he would have even less hairs !

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                  • Originally posted by aramshat View Post
                    Gotze only performs when it is not important, but when it matters the most he just disappears. When we are winning anyway his goals aren't really important that much...
                    EXACTLY!!!!
                    like in the world cup final against argentina he scored "not really important goal" that happens to be the winner goal.

                    the problem with gotze is that he only shows up in 10-25 minutes or a half time in a game then he crewls back into the shadows and you stop noticing him.
                    he must start to impose his presence in the game like how robben does and ribery also they get the ball and try to make something,sometimes they're successful and sometimes they lose the ball but you still notice their presence in the game.
                    gotze must do the same must take risks more just like how hazard and neymar do.
                    i think he's getting much better, albeit not too drastically

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                    • Originally posted by roosoo2 View Post
                      EXACTLY!!!!
                      like in the world cup final against argentina he scored "not really important goal" that happens to be the winner goal.

                      the problem with gotze is that he only shows up in 10-25 minutes or a half time in a game then he crewls back into the shadows and you stop noticing him.
                      he must start to impose his presence in the game like how robben does and ribery also they get the ball and try to make something,sometimes they're successful and sometimes they lose the ball but you still notice their presence in the game.
                      gotze must do the same must take risks more just like how hazard and neymar do.
                      i think he's getting much better, albeit not too drastically
                      I was talking about his Bayern performances, and also one decisive goal in one game is not enough.

                      Let's take Bayern games this season where Gotze has scored:

                      7-1 against Roma (1 goal)
                      6-0 against Werder (2 goals)
                      2-0 against Koln (1 goal)
                      4-0 against Paderborn (2 goals)
                      2-0 against Stuttgart (1 goal)
                      4-1 against Preussen Munster (1 goal)

                      Just look at the teams he scored against: 5 completely crap teams from bundesliga, Koln & Paderborn just came from 2nd bundesliga, not sure where Preussen Munster is even playing, Stuttgart & Werder being one of most conceding teams in bundesliga. Regarding Roma game, scoreline tells it all.

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                      • Originally posted by Grey View Post
                        We haven't seen a Xabi-Schweini midfield yet, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Thiago must play, or at least Goetze, although I have doubts about the latter performing in a deep midfield role, even with such a stalwart defense. As far as I see, we don't have anyone on our team that can adequately replace Thiago, and he's not even a key player for us. Weird.
                        I'm interested in seeing an Alonso-Schweini midfield and if that gives Schweini the freedom to go forward more than he was when player alongside a DM in a 4-2-3-1. You're right, nobody can replace Thiago, and I would go as far as seeing he is a key player for us. I thought he was fantastic for us when he was playing, his creativity from CM is stunning. He can take the ball into feet and bomb forward with it at will, then play a blinding ball over the defence for runners to run into to. In this system, where the CMs are deeper - without a man off the striker if 3-4-3 then we need someone with creativity in the centre.

                        Originally posted by mavros View Post
                        I respect your choise being a fan of Thiago playing, but in this formation (3-4-3) whom would you drop for him?

                        This is the strongest formation made to face the strongest teams.

                        Combining the existence of all our stars/experienced players, with defencive stability and at the same time giving the chance to both Schweini and Xabi create through the center (exploiting the existence of Javi) and Alaba/Ribery + Lahm/Robben from the wings.

                        Also we yet have to see Thiago healthy to consider him as a starter and don't dare to say that this go for Schweini too..... Just because Schweini is Schweini!
                        I think Alonso and Schweini are similar types of players and it makes more sense, to me, to have only one of them playing alongside Thiago. And unfortunately, Alonso has the edge on Schweini at this moment in time. I think with the 3 man defence and Bernat/Alaba and Lahm in midfield along with Alonso holding, there's more than enough defensive cover to put in a more attack minded player in with them. This is why I think the biggest problem with this formation is that it makes our probably of having 'too many' midfielders worse now that we're playing with effectively 5 defenders in the team and one less midfielder. Ideally, I'd like to see all of Alonso, Schweini and Thiago starting together but I'm not sure how that could be accommodated at the moment.

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                        • Originally posted by BayRan View Post
                          I'm interested in seeing an Alonso-Schweini midfield and if that gives Schweini the freedom to go forward more than he was when player alongside a DM in a 4-2-3-1. You're right, nobody can replace Thiago, and I would go as far as seeing he is a key player for us. I thought he was fantastic for us when he was playing, his creativity from CM is stunning. He can take the ball into feet and bomb forward with it at will, then play a blinding ball over the defence for runners to run into to. In this system, where the CMs are deeper - without a man off the striker if 3-4-3 then we need someone with creativity in the centre.



                          I think Alonso and Schweini are similar types of players and it makes more sense, to me, to have only one of them playing alongside Thiago. And unfortunately, Alonso has the edge on Schweini at this moment in time. I think with the 3 man defence and Bernat/Alaba and Lahm in midfield along with Alonso holding, there's more than enough defensive cover to put in a more attack minded player in with them. This is why I think the biggest problem with this formation is that it makes our probably of having 'too many' midfielders worse now that we're playing with effectively 5 defenders in the team and one less midfielder. Ideally, I'd like to see all of Alonso, Schweini and Thiago starting together but I'm not sure how that could be accommodated at the moment.
                          This way....

                          #ribery #lewandowski #robben

                          -----#ssteiger------------#thiago------
                          #alonso

                          #alaba #boateng #benatia #lahm

                          #neuer

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                          • I agree with Mavros, our strongest formation with all our players back is a 4-3-3, although some players need to be sidelined, but nothing we can do about it.

                            -----------------------Neuer------------------------
                            Lahm---------Benatia-------Boateng---------Alaba
                            --------------------Javi/Alonso----------------------
                            -------Thiago/Goetze-------Schweini/Muller-------
                            Robben----------------------------------------Ribery
                            -----------------------Lewa--------------------------

                            I think this is by far our best and strongest formation. The only problem is that in the 3 positions of the midfield we have 2 great players for each spot. Currently we are not facing much trouble because half of them is already injured, but when they come back I think it will be down to whoever is in a better shape, and it will be Pep's job to do a perfect rotation.

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                            • I hope that we will see all of our players fit.
                              But I do not belive that this season we will see Tiago , Alonso , Schweinsteiger and Martinez at the same time in the first 11th.
                              First because Tiago and Martinez are long term injuryes, and secound,
                              Pep will continue to play 3-1-4-2 or 3-4-3 and in that system Bernat is regular first 11.
                              Maybe when Schweinsteiger is back he will take the Lahm spot and Lahm will go on RM .
                              So, with all injury players ( for longer periods ) I predict that Bayern will play like this , " VS Real Madrid" :



                              Next season is totaly diferent story (if all player are back fit).
                              My prediction is that this players have advantage in Pep sistem.
                              For me Martinez > Alonso... :P



                              All in all with injuryes and Pep unpredictible lineups we can expect something different.
                              It's better to thake lineup wishes only for one next game 
                              Last edited by Bassnos; 04-11-2014, 13:28.

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                              • #muller
                                #ribery#gotze#robben
                                #ssteiger#martinez
                                #alaba#dante#boateng#lahm
                                #neuer

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