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  • Grey
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    Originally posted by bayern_fan View Post
    Muller can be ok as a squad player. The problem he makes too much and will probably start talking(or his wife will do that) if he is benched three games in a row. The guy is DONE, he is slow and not a winger while in the middle he is far too attacking and looks akward losing many balls, Gnabry right now is so much better than muller as a RW and SS. The problem is we need another winger or two. If we buy two players like Sane+Odoi(or someone similar) Muller will be slowly fazed out especially if Havertz comes next season.
    I'm a real fence-sitter on Muller and haven't quite made up my mind about him, but he was very good last season. It's harder to be critical of him when he was so important for our success. I feel that your argument was stronger before last season, but that doesn't mean that you are wrong.

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  • mavros
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    Originally posted by bayern_fan View Post
    Muller can be ok as a squad player. The problem he makes too much and will probably start talking(or his wife will do that) if he is benched three games in a row. The guy is DONE, he is slow and not a winger while in the middle he is far too attacking and looks akward losing many balls, Gnabry right now is so much better than muller as a RW and SS. The problem is we need another winger or two. If we buy two players like Sane+Odoi(or someone similar) Muller will be slowly fazed out especially if Havertz comes next season.
    That's exactly what I'm saying!
    He couldn't stay as a squad player that's why he should have been sold.
    And now, I don't see any offers coming for him!

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  • bayern_fan
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    Muller can be ok as a squad player. The problem he makes too much and will probably start talking(or his wife will do that) if he is benched three games in a row. The guy is DONE, he is slow and not a winger while in the middle he is far too attacking and looks akward losing many balls, Gnabry right now is so much better than muller as a RW and SS. The problem is we need another winger or two. If we buy two players like Sane+Odoi(or someone similar) Muller will be slowly fazed out especially if Havertz comes next season.

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  • mavros
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    Originally posted by LookAtTheTime View Post
    It really depends on who we play against. Against weak Bundesliga teams we don't need to play with two 8s or be too defensively minded. Against bigger teams then yeah playing like Kovac prefers would be the way to go
    Αs long as we play with Thiago as #6 the 4-3-3 is a very offensive formation.
    What you're saying goes whenever Javi or Roca is our #6.

    Anyway, my belief is that this formation problem 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 was permanent because of Muller.
    Muller "collapsed" since Euro 2016 and he should have already been sold.
    There is no need to try to suit Muller one way or another in any formation, or not use the proper formation just for Muller to suit in.

    This very moment the best formation for the players we already have is 4-3-3
    and the best 11 are these:

    Coman Lewa Gnabry

    Goretzka Toliso
    Thiago

    Lucas Sule Pavard Kimmich

    Neuer

    ....It's crystal clear

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  • LookAtTheTime
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    It really depends on who we play against. Against weak Bundesliga teams we don't need to play with two 8s or be too defensively minded. Against bigger teams then yeah playing like Kovac prefers would be the way to go

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  • Muller25
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    Originally posted by EM1R View Post


    This means no Muller in the starting XI. FUCK YES.
    I don’t understand your excitement about that considering his play was actually very good last season.

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  • EM1R
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    This means no Muller in the starting XI. FUCK YES.

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  • mea95
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    We should definitely play 4-3-3 this season

    Neuer/Ulreich

    Kimmich/Pavard - Sule/Boateng/Javi - Hernandez/Pavard - Alaba/Davies

    Thiago/Roca/Javi
    Tolisso/Sanches - Goretzka/Javi/Muller

    Gnabry/X - Lewa/Arp/Muller - Sané/Coman

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  • St3ph3n
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    Originally posted by A.M.L.N. View Post
    All depth in the world is needed when you're going for the Treble.
    depth ok...
    but what does depth mean?

    Liverpool depth? players on the bench who nobody rates , but yet manages to be real gems? Origi style? wijnaldum?
    most fans get real frustrated when starting a season with those players if your goal is the cl ..

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  • Muller25
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    Originally posted by St3ph3n View Post
    What makes a team balanced to you guys?

    A mix of stars and working Lads.
    A double , An alternative for every position?
    Or if you have that much quality in the back offensive should be even ( lewy<>Hernandez) .
    For me it’s simple from a strategy standpoint. But that’s easier said than done. Attacking a team should be able to win in different ways. From the wings, up the middle, aerial duals. And defensively able to handle any attack. Counters, from the wings and up the middle. This takes a balance of players obviously. Hard to do. But doable if you have the right people controlling personnel. We don’t have that. I will say our backline should be able to handle most attacking styles now

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  • A.M.L.N.
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    Originally posted by St3ph3n View Post
    What makes a team balanced to you guys?

    A mix of stars and working Lads.
    A double , An alternative for every position?
    Or if you have that much quality in the back offensive should be even ( lewy<>Hernandez) .
    All depth in the world is needed when you're going for the Treble.

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  • Thirteen
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    Neuer
    Kimmich ---- Sule - Lucas ---- Alaba
    Thiago - Tolliso
    Gnabry - Muller - Sane?
    Lewandowski

    Ulreich
    Pavard --- Javi - Boateng --- Henrichs\Davies?
    Roca?
    Goretzka - Sanches?
    Pepe? -------------- Coman
    Arp

    Something like this maybe. Two wingers (Sane + whoever from the B list), a player like Henrichs who can cover both FB positions would come nicely, especially if there are injury problems. A cdm like Roca or cam like Olmo would also be a must imo, especially if we intend to use Javi as backup CB or if we sell Sanches.

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  • St3ph3n
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    With a possible Leroy sand and Pepe incoming,

    how do we fit in all the new players?

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  • L4nd3r
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    Originally posted by St3ph3n View Post
    What makes a team balanced to you guys?

    A mix of stars and working Lads.
    A double , An alternative for every position?
    Or if you have that much quality in the back offensive should be even ( lewy<>Hernandez) .
    The 1st. But you also need a good bench when you are in 3 competitions.

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  • St3ph3n
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    What makes a team balanced to you guys?

    A mix of stars and working Lads.
    A double , An alternative for every position?
    Or if you have that much quality in the back offensive should be even ( lewy<>Hernandez) .

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