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  • Originally posted by Grey View Post
    And what tax could that be?

    Individual Income tax? Nope - down from 61.5% in 1996 to 57% in 2015.

    Corporate taxes? Nope - down from 58% in 1981 to 22%(!) in 2015.

    Sales tax? Nope - 25% across the board for decades.

    Personally, I'd rather everyone pay that much in taxes to ensure that we don't go bankrupt individually through medical expenses that aren't our fault.
    You dont think 57% is an atrociously high number? O.o

    What's up with you American Jews and socialism, never got it (no racist implications implied )

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    • 57% is a shit ton of taxes, holy moly from cannoli

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      • I don't care what the number is, that wasn't the point - the point was that it's not increasing (as Rohr claimed) but rather DECREASING. I can't help but notice how both of you missed that point to instead argue about whether a static snap-shot of a percentage is too high despite having no context for making that claim

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        • Go home Grey

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          • But I am home! You're just mad I proved you wrong with like...a minute and a half of googling tax rates

            To bring this back on topic, I doubt Badstuber's injury list is going to keep him from enjoying life after football. Indeed, a lot of the longterm damage from football (or most other sports) isn't necessarily from injuries but from repetitive use. In that sense, someone like Muller - relatively few injuries but always playing at the highest level - is also at risk for long-term damage.

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            • Poor people who are uninsured or those whose health insurance only covers a part of their expenses.

              Economic freedom is certainly higher in the US, but it comes at a price... Not a full-fledged socialism fan myself, but hilarious how socialism is seen as a pest by some Americans akin to good ol' communism.

              What we have up here is not really the same as it was in Soviet guys.
              Last edited by DonAK; 19-09-2016, 22:33.

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              • Originally posted by DonAK View Post
                Poor people who are uninsured or those whose health insurance only covers a part of their expenses.

                Economic freedom is certainly higher in the US, but it comes at a price... Not a full-fledged socialism fan myself, but hilarious how socialism is seen as a pest by some Americans akin to good ol' communism.

                What we have up here is not really the same as it was in Soviet guys.
                I'm not American. And I don't think modernday socialism = good ol' communism, I just don't agree with either (though, obviously, I disagree more with communism).

                Anyway, aren't you Norwegian? Some Norwegian economists came down to my country to try and tell us how you managed to have a working oil economy. The conclusion was "only Norwegians can, every other oil rich country is f4cked" :'D

                Grey: I did know that was tour point, I was just commenting on you not finding that percentage ridiculously high anyway: 50%, after all, means half of the time you expend working, you do so for the benefit of the government (fine, for the benefit of "society"). Yes I was picking my own argument.

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                • Originally posted by Grey View Post
                  But I am home!

                  Good! Obey me human!

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                  • Originally posted by PCapitalist View Post
                    I'm not American. And I don't think modernday socialism = good ol' communism, I just don't agree with either (though, obviously, I disagree more with communism).

                    Anyway, aren't you Norwegian? Some Norwegian economists came down to my country to try and tell us how you managed to have a working oil economy. The conclusion was "only Norwegians can, every other oil rich country is f4cked" :'D

                    Grey: I did know that was tour point, I was just commenting on you not finding that percentage ridiculously high anyway: 50%, after all, means half of the time you expend working, you do so for the benefit of the government (fine, for the benefit of "society"). Yes I was picking my own argument.

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                    I don't think you (meaning anyone, not you specifically) can make any sort of judgment about what a tax rate should be without a myriad other concerns. For instance a 50% tax rate means something very, very different in a society where a person spends none of their retained income on government services compared to a society where someone spends close to 100% of their retained income on government services. That's why I didn't really find anything compelling (one way or another) about what Sweden's nominal tax rate may be, and focused more on which direction it was heading. For all you know, a 20% rate in [country x] is three times as burdensome as a 60% rate in Sweden, based on any number of conflating circumstances.

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                    • So if Badstuber comes back from injury and gets some rotation minutes throughout the season, do you guys think he deserves a new contract? Tough call, but I guess a 2 year extension at the same wages would be fair?

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                      • I like having him here and would gladly give him a 2-year extension, but I don't know if either he or the board would accept that. This is, in all likelihood, his last season.

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                        • Originally posted by SCT View Post
                          So if Badstuber comes back from injury and gets some rotation minutes throughout the season, do you guys think he deserves a new contract? Tough call, but I guess a 2 year extension at the same wages would be fair?
                          If he shows good football and stay fit? I keep him. We don't have many home grown players anymore.

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                          • Originally posted by L4nd3r View Post
                            If he shows good football and stay fit? I keep him. We don't have many home grown players anymore.
                            The thing is, unless two of Boateng, Hummels, and Martinez gets a serious injury, we won't know how "fit" he is as he will only getting rotation/less intense games.

                            Maybe extend and send him out on loan?

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                            • Originally posted by Grey View Post
                              I don't think you (meaning anyone, not you specifically) can make any sort of judgment about what a tax rate should be without a myriad other concerns. For instance a 50% tax rate means something very, very different in a society where a person spends none of their retained income on government services compared to a society where someone spends close to 100% of their retained income on government services. That's why I didn't really find anything compelling (one way or another) about what Sweden's nominal tax rate may be, and focused more on which direction it was heading. For all you know, a 20% rate in [country x] is three times as burdensome as a 60% rate in Sweden, based on any number of conflating circumstances.


                              Whenever all forms of government are abolished, you will be the first one to be judged on a private McCourt, the McWarlord will sentence you to work as a slave on deregulated uranium mines, maximizing all externalities. The uranium will be used to fabricate bombs to attack the Burger King warband, which have been slowly but surely raiding their duty free supply lines, which have been used to supply the war front against the Taco Bell invaders.

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                              • Originally posted by SCT View Post
                                The thing is, unless two of Boateng, Hummels, and Martinez gets a serious injury, we won't know how "fit" he is as he will only getting rotation/less intense games.

                                Maybe extend and send him out on loan?
                                I'm cool having Badstuber as a rotation player, not sure he is.

                                Originally posted by rohr View Post
                                Whenever all forms of government are abolished, you will be the first one to be judged on a private McCourt, the McWarlord will sentence you to work as a slave on deregulated uranium mines, maximizing all externalities. The uranium will be used to fabricate bombs to attack the Burger King warband, which have been slowly but surely raiding their duty free supply lines, which have been used to supply the war front against the Taco Bell invaders.
                                You're playing too much fallout.

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