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  • #31
    This goal should be credited for Gondogan what a pass.

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    • #32
      Reus should be a starter, Kroos is definitely finished. Süle 100% man of the match.

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      • #33
        Huge win for ze Germans. Hopefully they can keep building on to it.

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        • #34
          I think Germany defense was really bad. On paper 5 defenders but no solidity at all. Löw should go to 4 at back setup again. If he really want to play Kimmich at midfield:

          Neuer
          Klostermann - Süle - ? - Schulz
          Kimmich - Kroos - Goretzka
          Reus - Gnabry - Sané

          A lot of movement upfront. And i think Kroos is still needed, unless Goretzka is deployed in a more defensive position (double pivot alongside Kimmich).

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          • #35
            First half was refreshing...didn’t see the second half...big and important win for the young team

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            • #36
              Originally posted by franz View Post
              I think Germany defense was really bad. On paper 5 defenders but no solidity at all. Löw should go to 4 at back setup again. If he really want to play Kimmich at midfield:

              Neuer
              Klostermann - Süle - ? - Schulz
              Kimmich - Kroos - Goretzka
              Reus - Gnabry - Sané

              A lot of movement upfront. And i think Kroos is still needed, unless Goretzka is deployed in a more defensive position (double pivot alongside Kimmich).
              I personally think that the Idea of 3 man defense is very good and it has two main perks:

              1) It enables the team to attack with more men, since WBs are "free" to contribute more without fear of being caught too far up.
              2) Even if you attack with more men and you might concede a counter attack, you have now 3 players+DMF instead of 2+DMF. Granted at least one of those players is agile enough for fast paced players like Mbappe and such, you should be very solid at the back.

              On the other hand, 3 man at the back has a very unique flaw. In defensive stance and when opponent is approaching through wings, now that you don't have traditional wingers or LMFs and your back 3 is preoccupied in penalty box, your lone WB is very prone to be overloaded by their FB+winger combination. It is inevitable to concede the cross which is fine considering Germany has towering defenders. But if you as the WB let your guard down and let their team to pass to half spaces behind WB and play a diagonal ball in the box, just like what happened in Netherland's second goal, it would be devastating. There are a lot of things to learn and to do and not to do about back 3 system. Since back 3 is not common in world of football as back 4, most players aren't that comfortable with that. But IMO if you can implement and refine it in your team, it would be a very nice approach to modern fast paced football both defensively and offensively.

              Returning to Bayern what I see is,
              1. Coman gets injured while sleeping
              2. Now that I see how much better Gnabry can be through middle and as SS instead of wing, just like what I thought before
              3. There are not so many brilliant wingers out there. I don't like Nicola Pepe ,especially for 80 millions and it seems CHO is very hard to get, since Chelsea has ban and Hazard pretty much confirmed he wants to play for Real
              4. Tuchel has rejected Bayern once more and there are not so many options out there and it seems we are stuck with Kovac, who did his best job with back 3
              5. It would be awesome to give Alaba and Kimmich a chance to unleash their full potential in offense.
              6. And we now with incoming transfers will have shit ton of defenders
              7. Bundesliga teams Generally sit deep, so having more men to attack would be better and since main objective of BL teams is to counter attack, 3 man defense deals with it better.

              I think, it would be wise to switch to back 3 and go from there. If it didn't work we could always get rid of Kovac and maybe buy CHO and another winger in 2020 and see what we can do from there with maybe a better coach, who might be available then and not in summer 2019.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bayer View Post
                They’re giving van dick and de ligt a hard time
                I see what you did there

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                • #38
                  Virgin van Dick got rekt!

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                  • #39
                    Nico Schultz is on his way to become the new Kimmich with deadly accurate crosses and shots. Scored 1 and assisted 1 against Netherland, imo MOTM ;if I remember correctly he scored a beauty against us months ago with a single shot

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                    • #40
                      Real Goat

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by EM1R View Post
                        Real Goat

                        And then he proceeds to get a dumb red card.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by L4nd3r View Post
                          And then he proceeds to get a dumb red card.
                          Which wasn't even a yellow

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by EM1R View Post
                            Which wasn't even a yellow
                            reckless challenge, it was a red.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by L4nd3r View Post
                              reckless challenge, it was a red.
                              No, it wasn't. Because it wasn't.

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                              • #45
                                Germany XI vs Belarus:

                                Neuer
                                Ginter - Süle - Tah
                                Klostermann - Kimmich - Gündogan - Schulz
                                Reus
                                Gnabry - Sané


                                Pavard starts against Turkey tonight while Coman is on the bench.

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