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  • France have conceded 4 goals out of 4 (5 in the whole tournament) knock-out games. That's not solid at all lol

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    • Originally posted by Bayer View Post
      France have conceded 4 goals out of 4 (5 in the whole tournament) knock-out games. That's not solid at all lol
      They conceded one goal in the group stage (from a penalty mind you)

      In the knockout stages three goals came from one game but they managed to concede zero goals against Belgium and Uruguay. Against Belgium they defended extremely well and the fact that a team with Lukaku, Hazard, and De Bruyne up front couldn't get a goal in says something.

      In the final they conceded one really good goal and another one from a really really stupid blunder which still confuses me.

      Outside of the game against Argentina I would say they were extremely solid.

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      • Originally posted by LookAtTheTime View Post
        They conceded one goal in the group stage (from a penalty mind you)

        In the knockout stages three goals came from one game but they managed to concede zero goals against Belgium and Uruguay. Against Belgium they defended extremely well and the fact that a team with Lukaku, Hazard, and De Bruyne up front couldn't get a goal in says something.

        In the final they conceded one really good goal and another one from a really really stupid blunder which still confuses me.

        Outside of the game against Argentina I would say they were extremely solid.
        Yeah, it says that Belgium sucked butt in that match.

        God, Belgium would make such a much more fun champion than the baguettes.

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        • Belgium didn't play like complete shit in that game.

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          • Originally posted by LookAtTheTime View Post
            They conceded one goal in the group stage (from a penalty mind you)

            In the knockout stages three goals came from one game but they managed to concede zero goals against Belgium and Uruguay. Against Belgium they defended extremely well and the fact that a team with Lukaku, Hazard, and De Bruyne up front couldn't get a goal in says something.

            In the final they conceded one really good goal and another one from a really really stupid blunder which still confuses me.

            Outside of the game against Argentina I would say they were extremely solid.
            They didn't concede any goal vs an Uruguay side who was missing out on their most prominent attacker though.

            Belgium have so much offensive potential yet they showed they can brilliantly waste it.

            On the other hand, they did struggle vs a powerful yet disorganized Argentina and they conceded 2 in a final vs an exhausted Croatian side.

            To take into account other world champions, to put up a comparison, let's see what kind run the last 3 sides that eventually went on claiming the whole thing had:

            Italy 2006:

            Italy 2:0 Ghana
            Italy 1:1 USA (own goal)
            Italy 2:0 Czechia
            Italy 1:0 Australia
            Italy 3:0 Ukraine
            Italy 2:0 e.t. Germany
            Italy 1:1 France (non-existing penalty)

            2 goals conceded, none from open play, 1 during knock-out stage.

            Spain 2010:

            Spain 0:1 Switzerland
            Spain 2:0 Honduras
            Spain 2:1 Chile
            Spain 1:0 Portugal
            Spain 1:0 Paraguay
            Spain 1:0 Germany
            Spain 1:0 aet Netherlands

            2 goals conceded, 0 during knock-out stages.


            Germany 2014:

            Germany 4:0 Portugal
            Germany 2:2 Ghana
            Germany 1:0 USA
            Germany 2:1 aet Algeria
            Germany 1:0 France
            Germany 7:1 Brazil
            Germany 1:0 aet Argentina

            4 goals conceded, 2 during knock-out stages. Although I'll give the Germans they conceded their last goal as they were leading by 7 nil up.

            5 goals conceded into account does not really make France's campaign impressive to me. They showed good defensive display, they coped decently vs some team deploying nice attacking talent but nothing too impressive given the last 3 editions if you ask me.

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            • I really wouldn't count the second goal Croatia scored as something wrong with France's defense as it was just Lloris being really really stupid.
              I don't think their performance against Belgium should really be written off however.

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              • Originally posted by LookAtTheTime View Post
                I really wouldn't count the second goal Croatia scored as something wrong with France's defense as it was just Lloris being really really stupid.
                I don't think their performance against Belgium should really be written off however.
                Fair enough.

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                • Originally posted by Tommy5Rings View Post
                  Bayernzone: "no useless possession, no more high-line, more longballs and more deep defending."

                  Deschamp: "plays this way all tournament."

                  Bayernzone: "no not like that, you have too much talent to play like that"
                  please take notice that I wasn't among those who didn't like the way France played.

                  if we adopt similar tactics and be as efficient I will be the happiest Bayern supporter here.

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                  • Originally posted by Tommy5Rings View Post
                    Bayernzone: "no useless possession, no more high-line, more longballs and more deep defending."

                    Deschamp: "plays this way all tournament."

                    Bayernzone: "no not like that, you have too much talent to play like that"
                    No one wants fucking possesion play, just don't kill the game like Deschamps did.

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                    • Originally posted by Bayer View Post
                      They didn't concede any goal vs an Uruguay side who was missing out on their most prominent attacker though.

                      Belgium have so much offensive potential yet they showed they can brilliantly waste it.

                      On the other hand, they did struggle vs a powerful yet disorganized Argentina and they conceded 2 in a final vs an exhausted Croatian side.
                      if we are going to talk like this, then the same can be said about Germany for example in 2014 ... Algeria wasted tons of chances, they could've scored 5 goals
                      Argentina also wasted several chances, thanks to Higuain & Palacio

                      Or Spain when Paraguay scored a goal but was wrongly ruled offside and then missed a penalty in the 2nd half
                      And when Robben missed two 1 on 1 situations in the final ...


                      The fact is France did struggle vs Argentina and they had a bad defensive performance in this match, but in all the other matches, they were very solid defensively

                      At some point during the match you get this feeling that it will be impossible for their opponents to score

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                      • Originally posted by Tommy5Rings View Post
                        Bayernzone: "no useless possession, no more high-line, more longballs and more deep defending."

                        Deschamp: "plays this way all tournament."

                        Bayernzone: "no not like that, you have too much talent to play like that"
                        Yes, because there are only two ways of playing football in the world. Damn you're funny, Tommy.
                        Last edited by micky; 17-07-2018, 09:04.

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                        • France are world champions for the next 4 years!

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