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Old 28-06-2017, 21:41   #166
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It's a crime against humanity if we don't see Vidal and sanchez play together more .
They've beaten both Ronaldo and Messi in the last 3 years

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I was thinking the same

But honestly, how can you not love Vidal? That heart he shows on the pitch is just love.

He runs all over, he defends, he scores, he tackle, he is leading, he simply does it all
I LOVE Vidal! I don't care about that penalty he missed. Plenty of our stars missed important penalties. Won't blame it on him. You only commit mistakes if you're there. And like him or not, but when there's a battle and it gets tough, Arturo will be there, no matter what. Sure he'll commit a mistake from time to time, but as said, only those who hide from the pitch will be free from that.
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Old 28-06-2017, 21:41   #168
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Haha Ronaldo was waiting for the fifth PK
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Hahaha typical Ronaldo always waiting for the fame-penalty.
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it was an enjoyable moment when Vidal ran to Sanchez after he scored the 3rd penalty and celebrated together

I hope we will be able to see such a moment in a CL final
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I LOVE Vidal! I don't care about that penalty he missed. Plenty of our stars missed important penalties. Won't blame it on him. You only commit mistakes if you're there. And like him or not, but when there's a battle and it gets tough, Arturo will be there, no matter what. Sure he'll commit a mistake from time to time, but as said, only those who hide from the pitch will be free from that.
Exactly.

And another thing is that he always shows up on the biggest stage. Some would say "yeah but he got a red card", but they seems to forget he was the only midfielder who really did something against Real Madrid.

Like I said many times when you have to do the work for 3 (as much as I like Thiago, he dissapeared against Real), then offcourse you gonna make mistakes. A slow and past it alonso with a Thiago who crumbled or just didnt show up, Vidal was the only midfielder really.
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it was an enjoyable moment when Vidal ran to Sanchez after he scored the 3rd penalty and celebrated together

I hope we will be able to see such a moment in a CL final
If just he comes here first I will be okay if its just a BL game

But honestly I think we got a good chance of signing him, and Vidal is one of the reasons.

Also that he played against us many times and his teams got crushed, so he knows the quality of Bayern
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Exactly.

And another thing is that he always shows up on the biggest stage. Some would say "yeah but he got a red card", but they seems to forget he was the only midfielder who really did something against Real Madrid.

Like I said many times when you have to do the work for 3 (as much as I like Thiago, he dissapeared against Real), then offcourse you gonna make mistakes. A slow and past it alonso with a Thiago who crumbled or just didnt show up, Vidal was the only midfielder really.
Thiago was great against Real until the red card. Vastly superior to Kroos, who ironically never showed up until the red card.

What I don't like about Vidal is that showing up one game a season isn't enough, no matter how big that game is. Vidal at his core is a wild card that can't be relied upon, so why rely on it at the absolute most critical time? That's what I don't get. Anyway, there's no denying that Vidal and Sanchez are a matched pair, so if Sanchez coming here brings the best out of Vidal then that's just yet another perk of having Sanchez.
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Thiago was great against Real until the red card. Vastly superior to Kroos, who ironically never showed up until the red card.

What I don't like about Vidal is that showing up one game a season isn't enough, no matter how big that game is. Vidal at his core is a wild card that can't be relied upon, so why rely on it at the absolute most critical time? That's what I don't get. Anyway, there's no denying that Vidal and Sanchez are a matched pair, so if Sanchez coming here brings the best out of Vidal then that's just yet another perk of having Sanchez.
I dont agree about Vidal only showing up one game a season. And I will take a player like Vidal over Thiago everyday of the week.

Thiago is great and I love him dont get me wrong, but Vidal is for me the most complete midfielder in the World and games like this tonight shows that pretty clear.

To me Vidal is not a wild Card neither. The red card he got against Real Madrid was also his first red card for Bayern ever
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Exactly.

And another thing is that he always shows up on the biggest stage. Some would say "yeah but he got a red card", but they seems to forget he was the only midfielder who really did something against Real Madrid.

Like I said many times when you have to do the work for 3 (as much as I like Thiago, he dissapeared against Real), then offcourse you gonna make mistakes. A slow and past it alonso with a Thiago who crumbled or just didnt show up, Vidal was the only midfielder really.
I, like Grey, also happen to think Thiago was alright vs Real Madrid and I think he's on the right path to become the midfielder we look for. However, that's not taking anything away from Arturo who always did a great job. He's always up to something. He took that penalty because he was the only player, who, in case of miss, wouldn't have stopped playing. Anyone else would've started panicking. Arturo was up to it and continued his game.

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Thiago was great against Real until the red card. Vastly superior to Kroos, who ironically never showed up until the red card.

What I don't like about Vidal is that showing up one game a season isn't enough, no matter how big that game is. Vidal at his core is a wild card that can't be relied upon, so why rely on it at the absolute most critical time? That's what I don't get. Anyway, there's no denying that Vidal and Sanchez are a matched pair, so if Sanchez coming here brings the best out of Vidal then that's just yet another perk of having Sanchez.
I agree, I also noticed he seems to give his all just in specific games. Maybe that's what the coach requires though? After all, his qualities are much more needed in big games vs world class opponents rather than in the "regular" Bundesliga matches where we always easily control the game and dictate the rhythms? Maybe that's why he seems to shine more in games where our midfield actually has to fight, too, rather than just moving the ball around?

Plus, the thing is that he shouldn't have been sent off because it was nowhere a foul in the game vs Real. And he didn't even get the same treatment as Casemiro in that game from the ref. I acknowledge that he can be a risk but playing football at the highest level is usually risky, too. There are pros and cons and imo we need someone like him for the style of football we adopt. I don't feel like blaming it on him because he shouldn't go for such a tackle which actually might look as a foul to the ref, because that's exactly what the ref is there for.
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I dont agree about Vidal only showing up one game a season. And I will take a player like Vidal over Thiago everyday of the week.

Thiago is great and I love him dont get me wrong, but Vidal is for me the most complete midfielder in the World and games like this tonight shows that pretty clear.

To me Vidal is not a wild Card neither. The red card he got against Real Madrid was also his first red card for Bayern ever
1 red card in the only match he played with full effort? That's not something to brag about

I agree he's a complete midfielder who does everything well, that's why he was really one of my favorite players in the world back in Leverkusen. Unfortunately the Vidal today doesn't given 1/2 the effort he gave back when he was in the BuLi the first time. He's fundamentally less willing to try as hard as he used to, at least in the league. If that attitude doesn't change, he's not going to be here for long. But as I said, I want Sanchez here - among many other reasons - to help get the best out of Vidal. We both know what he's capable of, but he's seriously failing to show it at Bayern. So if Sanchez is what it takes to see an A-grade Vidal, then let's bring him!
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1 red card in the only match he played with full effort? That's not something to brag about

I agree he's a complete midfielder who does everything well, that's why he was really one of my favorite players in the world back in Leverkusen. Unfortunately the Vidal today doesn't given 1/2 the effort he gave back when he was in the BuLi the first time. He's fundamentally less willing to try as hard as he used to, at least in the league. If that attitude doesn't change, he's not going to be here for long. But as I said, I want Sanchez here - among many other reasons - to help get the best out of Vidal. We both know what he's capable of, but he's seriously failing to show it at Bayern. So if Sanchez is what it takes to see an A-grade Vidal, then let's bring him!
I agree that he seems better on the NT and also the big CL matches than in the League nearly all the time, but I seriously think Bayer got a good point about it.

The Vidal that played in Juventus from 12-14 was the best midfielder in the world. He was crazy good
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Who cares if Arturo slacks in the BuLi? He is a great big game player. The red card shouldn't have been given simply because it just makes no sense to keep a tough tackler on the pitch for the whole 90+ when he got a yellow on min 6... CARLO is the one to blame for that red card.

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I agree that he seems better on the NT and also the big CL matches than in the League nearly all the time, but I seriously think Bayer got a good point about it.

The Vidal that played in Juventus from 12-14 was the best midfielder in the world. He was crazy good
Eh, I disagree with the last bit but I know I'm in a tiny minority

1.) Bastian Schweinsteiger (and Javi Martinez) were superior in 2012-13, by a wide margin

2.) Vidal actually got WORSE (lazier) at Juve, not better. Most people who think he was amazing at Juve never saw just how good he was in 2010-11.
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