Go Back   BayernZone - FC Bayern München Forum > Football talk > German Football

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 26-06-2016, 23:13   #4876
DonAK
Valmierda
 
DonAK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 3,148
Likes: 190
So will the Bundesliga without proper competition.
DonAK is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 26-06-2016, 23:15   #4877
kailip
Censored by Gray
 
kailip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,001
Likes: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
So will the Bundesliga without proper competition.
Ancelotti sucks at leagues so there'll be competition.

It's fiiiiiine
BZ Squad member11
kailip is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 00:30   #4878
Alex
BZ Member
 
Alex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tuzla
Posts: 4,690
Likes: 103
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
So will the Bundesliga without proper competition.
Tell me, in all honesty, since you're a barca fan.. would you like to see real or atletico flourish?
Alex is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 00:55   #4879
DonAK
Valmierda
 
DonAK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 3,148
Likes: 190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex View Post
Tell me, in all honesty, since you're a barca fan.. would you like to see real or atletico flourish?
Nope, and you're right in not wanting them to flourish either, but if Real and Atletico absolutely suck then it'll affect the league's quality, especially in Europe.

Healthy competition is good. This year there was a healthy competition of some sorts, if BvB and another team manage to repeat that for years to come(with Bayern winning from your perspective obviously) then it'll good for the Bundesliga in the long run.

With how crazy the EPL is going in their broadcasting deals, the other leagues need a healthy competition so they can generate more revenue through that. A dull monopoly won't interest foreign markets. That's my point, if you get it.
DonAK is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 02:05   #4880
Grey
Free Cascadia
 
Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: The Rainforest
Posts: 21,149
Likes: 2400
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
Nope, and you're right in not wanting them to flourish either, but if Real and Atletico absolutely suck then it'll affect the league's quality, especially in Europe.

Healthy competition is good. This year there was a healthy competition of some sorts, if BvB and another team manage to repeat that for years to come(with Bayern winning from your perspective obviously) then it'll good for the Bundesliga in the long run.

With how crazy the EPL is going in their broadcasting deals, the other leagues need a healthy competition so they can generate more revenue through that. A dull monopoly won't interest foreign markets. That's my point, if you get it.
I agree with you but keep this in mind: Schalke are one good manager away from being at BVB's level. To top that off, Leverkusen aren't far off either. And in the not-so-distant future, I have 0 doubt RB leipzig will be there too. There's a hell of a lot to be excited about in German soccer that isn't Bayern or BVB.
BZ Staff Member BZ Squad member10
Grey is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 02:12   #4881
Alex
BZ Member
 
Alex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tuzla
Posts: 4,690
Likes: 103
You're right, but in my eyes there's only bayern and not bvb or s04 or the entire bundesliga, if we keep playing like we are we shouldn't have any problems in either of those aspects you mentioned
Alex is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 08:21   #4882
micky
Arp you ready?
 
micky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Rhein-Neckar
Posts: 6,037
Likes: 647
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey View Post
I agree with you but keep this in mind: Schalke are one good manager away from being at BVB's level. To top that off, Leverkusen aren't far off either. And in the not-so-distant future, I have 0 doubt RB leipzig will be there too. There's a hell of a lot to be excited about in German soccer that isn't Bayern or BVB.
True in a sense. What also affects Schalke's success is their not-so-good financial situation, which is somewhat similar to that of Dortmund a few years ago, i.e. they've got good revenue streams yet don't make much profit but loss, which of course then shows in the transfer market. But otherwise I agree, Schalke are a good manager away behind Dortmund, and I believe that Weinzierl is that manager that can take them that one step further.
BZ Squad member22
micky is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 08:30   #4883
L4nd3r
Uli and Kovac RAUS
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fortaleza
Posts: 7,424
Likes: 788
Quote:
Originally Posted by micky View Post
True in a sense. What also affects Schalke's success is their not-so-good financial situation, which is somewhat similar to that of Dortmund a few years ago, i.e. they've got good revenue streams yet don't make much profit but loss, which of course then shows in the transfer market. But otherwise I agree, Schalke are a good manager away behind Dortmund, and I believe that Weinzierl is that manager that can take them that one step further.
That's why Schalke has too keep selling it's soul to Gazprom, they have a really big debt.
BZ Squad member27
L4nd3r is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 27-06-2016, 08:37   #4884
micky
Arp you ready?
 
micky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Rhein-Neckar
Posts: 6,037
Likes: 647
Quote:
Originally Posted by L4nd3r View Post
That's why Schalke has too keep selling it's soul to Gazprom, they have a really big debt.
They can mainly thank the Veltins Arena for their debt situation. Schalke have pretty much the same mentality-problem as Dortmund had, which is to get rid of all the debt on the expense of operations.

Quote:
In the past five years we have reduced our financial liabilities by more than 100 million Euros to the current figure of 146 million Euros. In three years the VELTINS-Arena will be paid off. Therefore, I am very angered by statements from others, who portray us as a club in debt. It's simply a term that is no longer fitting, because the figures that we've attained have exceeded our debts considerably. We have also set up our own fixed deposit account. In the 2015 fiscal year alone we made 22.5 million Euros profit, with a 264.5 million Euro turnover. That's a new record by a long way!
Peter Peters: Reliability pays out in hard cash - News - Schalke04.de

What really caught my eye is this bit:
Quote:
We remain a registered club, reserve all our rights and will not take any investors on board.
By taking no investors on board like Bayern and BVB have done, Schalke won't be able to challenge either of them financially, as raising capital is important for a club to stay competitive and relevant in today's football.

Last edited by micky; 27-06-2016 at 08:42.
BZ Squad member22
micky is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 12:52   #4885
mea95
Mea San Mea
 
mea95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Rennes
Posts: 20,776
Likes: 1995
Mkhitaryan to Man Utd is official
BZ Staff Member Most 'liked' poster BZ Squad member30
mea95 is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 13:19   #4886
Dan
BZ Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
I don't think Dortmund will come top 3 next season, too many big player losses and i don't think the replacements will be good enough. I can see at least Leverkusen and Schalke finish before them. Dortmund had a good team going but it has been completely destroyed in the space of a few months.
Dan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 13:33   #4887
mea95
Mea San Mea
 
mea95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Rennes
Posts: 20,776
Likes: 1995
Selling Hummels, Gundogan & Mkhitaryan in one transfer window is a blow for them
BZ Staff Member Most 'liked' poster BZ Squad member30
mea95 is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 14:09   #4888
Die Roten Mun
BZ Member
 
Die Roten Mun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,022
Likes: 177
BZ Squad member99
Die Roten Mun is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 14:24   #4889
dips82
BZ Member
 
dips82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Minneapolis, US
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 32
What if they sign both Gotze and Schurrle?
dips82 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 14:34   #4890
mavros
DFB-FCB
 
mavros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nea Smyrni, Athens
Posts: 10,441
Likes: 303
Quote:
Originally Posted by dips82 View Post
What if they sign both Gotze and Schurrle?
Τhey'll be even worse!
BZ Squad member17
mavros is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Forum Jump


Follow BayernZone on Facebook Follow BayernZone on Twitter Contact Us

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:56.

Sponsors: Your link here? | Your link here? | Your link here?

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Allianz Arena icon by luca1980 / CC BY / Recolored

©2009 - 2017 BayernZone.com
This is a fan forum that is in no way affiliated with FC Bayern München AG.